旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴� � /// / / //// //// //// .//// /// / / � � / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / � � / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / � � //// //// //// /// /// / / / / / / � � / / / / / / / / / / / / / � � / / / / / //// //// .//// /// / / M A G A Z I N E � � 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴� � � Official ANTI BTK publication Issue 2/1 � � 15.3.97 � 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴� TOC: ---- 1) From the mouth of Flip Flop Dr. Flip Flop 2) "Some sick toughts in my head..." FlyMan 3) "a.k.a. Freedom of Expression" Bob Izenberg(reprint from CUD) 4) 'From the fried brain' Maniax Killerian 5) 'Basic Telecomunications' II Dr. Flip Flop 6) Pregled na pechata Maniax Killerian 7) Current Status the staff 8) Reader's info the staff _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 >>> > > > >>> > .>> >>> > >> >> >>> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > > *** * *** ** *** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ** * * * ** * *** *** * * *** * * Half mounth or so passed since the creation of our 'ANTI BTK' organisation. It's hard to say that it grows as it was planed to, but we do our best. As the time goes, I become more and more pesimistic... Sometimes I wonder, is there someone realy bored from BTK? Are there any phreaks willing to put BTK on their ass? Eh? Come on, guys, don't tell me you do not hate these bastards! Ok, lets look at the problem this way. Do you think it is normal for the reachest company in our country to pretend that the taxes collected are too low??? Is it normal for BTK to builds ATM polygons and super-modern fiberoptic high-speed trunc lines using the most expensive technologies all over the east Europe, and in the same time to have the highest relation phone_taxes/salary all over the continent??? (I don't even want to talk about the quality of the phone connections /when they exist.../.) Now, think a bit... What does we want? Is it abnormal to want something that you NEED? Will you allow these jerks to take your soul from you? How low can you go? After all, they don't give us a chance. If they don't want to give us what we need, we'll take it ourselfes. In our own ways... I'm sure you're not more stupid than these fuckers, so lets show them who we are! We can do it if we work all together. Well, this is the second issue of PHREEDOM Magazine - the official anti-btk publication...(ya know). I'm not as enthusiased as before. The reason is that I haven't recieved any mail or other kind of notification that our organisa- tion is supported by your freak-willing spirit... How can we be sure that we don't talk to ourselves? We can not do anything alone! So, please let me know if you're with us. I'll be more than happy if I know that someone, somewhere will phuck BTK while I'm in the prison... ;-) In this issue we'll continue providing you hot information about how to have fun phucking these jerks. But you have to know that our willing won't stay with us long time if we're alone. We need your help more than ever! Well, till next time! Ta-ta... _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽 Some sick toughts in my head... By FlyMan 賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽 Hi, zdravejte, dobar den! Pak sym az DD, veche preimenuvan na FlyMan, taka che da znaete kogo da psuvate veche, ako imate nesto protiv men ;-)!! I taka, pisheiki prednoto si tvorenie az biah lud /ne che sega ne sym/, ama kak mislite chovek moze li da ostane normalen dnes, a?!? Otkazaha ni ot hliaba, otkazaha ni i ot mesoto i t.n., ok be /vikam si/ ot tova shte se otkaza, no sega iskat da ni otkazat ot telefonite, opa-a-a tuka ne poznahte typi smotaniaci ot BTK!! Sedite si na biurata, znachi i si gledate zivota na gyrba na miserable user-i na fonite, kato si mislite che nie ste prodylzavame da si bydem mirnoto stado, podritvano ot ovchiaria!! A, be mnogo losho sme gi sviknali i te veche se misliat za GODS / DA, AMA NE/!! Phreacker-a smiata samo edin za Gospod - himself :-] !! Taka che veche e vreme da se vslushame v GOD-a, skrit vyv vseki ot nas i da im pokazem shto za phreakers are we :->>>> ! My freak mind's gonna blow, I'll do something crazy, stop me to avoid this wrong step!!! I want to phuck them, but I don't want to go to prison, tell me a way to do this w/o going in POLICE !?!? Niakoi bi kazal: "A, be nachini mnogo, ama triabva da si zalozish zadnika!!" Ideiata po princip ne e losha, ama daite da izmislim /i prilozim/ niakoj cool nachin da im go nachukame na tezi ot BTK. Ako niakoj ima predlozenia, call me in Hot Hell BBS-look for Flying Man, or in Blown Away BBS-058 384 07, again look for me. Toku shto mi hrumna edna MAD idea. Ako niakoj pritezava notebook s modem i mu se log-va v niakoj BBS v USA, ili kydeto i da e, call me i i'll tell you how to phuck the BTK!! Samo che da znaete che e mnogo riskovano i che se pravi prez noshtta :-) !!! He, he, cool idea, huh? Bih iskal da kaza i oshte neshto, koeto bi moglo da posluzi kto lozung na nashata orgnizacia: "If you want to fuck for funny, fuck yourself and save our money, fuckin' BTK!!" Kak e, haresva li vi, tova e oshte edin phreak plod na moiat sick mind :-]!! TO BE CONTINUE!!!!! Wrote by Flyman 賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽 _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 ***************************************** *** a.k.a. Freedom of Expression *** ***************************************** By Bob Izenberg I read this in issue 2.16 of the Computer Underground Digest: [ quoted text follows ] IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA ATLANTA DIVISION UNITED STATES OF AMERICA : : CRIMINAL ACTION v. : : NO. 1:90-CR-31 : ADAM E. GRANT, a/k/a The : Urvile, and a/k/a Necron 99, : FRANKLIN E. DARDEN, JR., a/k/a : The Leftist, and : ROBERT J. RIGGS, a/k/a : The Prophet : GOVERNMENT'S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM AND S.G. SS 5K1.1 MOTION [ quoted text ends ] The assumption here, that an alias employed in computer communications is the same as an alias used to avoid identification or prosecution, doesn't reflect an awareness of the context within which such communications exist. The very nature of some computer operating systems demands some form of alias from their users. Management policy also affects how you can identify yourself to a computer, and to anyone who interacts with you through that computer. Look at some of the monikers that were assigned to me to allow me to use various computer systems: Izenberg_Bob (pretty straightforward) bei 76615,1413 BIZENBERG 3935gbt root ;-) Some of those account names identify me personally with me the computer user easily, some not at all. Is it accurate to say that I'm Bob Izenberg, a.k.a. one of the above account names? Sure, between you and me, outside of a court of law. In the context of that court of law, that a.k.a. is an accusation in itself. If we strip the implication from those three letters that the party of the leftmost part is calling themselves the party of the rightmost part to avoid getting nabbed with the goods, what's left? I am known by another name when I use a computer? Where's the surprise in that? Maybe I'm Bob the person a.k.a. Bob the user ID. For another slant on this, let's borrow from my days covering town meetings. I might also be Bob, trading as Bob the user ID, as in: Bob Izenberg, t/a Bob's Bar and Grill. There's no criminal intent there, not in the kinda bar I run. In using a computer communications medium, particularly an informal one like a BBS, the name you choose can set the tone for the aspect of your personality that you're going to present (or exaggerate.) Are radio announcers using their "air names" to avoid the law? How about people with CB handles? Movie actors and crew members? Fashion designers? Society contains enough instances of people who, for creative reasons, choose another name by which they're known to the public. I certainly hope that somebody mentions that Len Rose calling himself Terminus (which springs from his correct perception of himself as somebody who kept the wheels of comunication between legitimate users of AT&T's products moving, or from the Foundation series by author Isaac Asimov) is fair use of a pseudonym, well in line with community standards set by his peers. Whenever somebody uses a.k.a., correct them! _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 ------------------------ | From the fried brain | ------------------------ Oshte edin den v ada,oshte edin den sme zhivi.Sedim,aha-aha hodim i se radvame,che vse pak sme zhivi.Vupreki che nqkoi kato mene ne sa sigurni v poslednoto..... Bqh reshil dneska da govorq za nachinite za preebavane na tel. centrala,obache DR.FlipFlop kaza che nqma da publikuva takova neshto (kakvo govedo,to i bez tova si go ima v all.box),taak che dneshnata mi statiq nqma da e tolkova tehnicheska. Ufffff....vseki s grizhite si.Snoshti i dneska podrezhdah fajlove- te deto gi vzeh ot HoJo-pone 400-500 MB,izslushal sum pone 2 chasa muzika, pregledam sum pone 200 kartinki,prochel sum pone 400 Kb tekstove..... ej,slozhil mi e edna direktoriq \jpg\shit s pederasi....shtqh da go grumna.E,pone im napulnih diska-sigurno oshte pishat description-i...:-) Dano ne se hvanat da gi chetat-shte im okapqt ochite... Tuka v moeto provincialno gradche Dobrich ima 2 BBS i 6-7 usera- egati zhivota.I vse pak,tuka ima 2 bbs zanimavashti se s H/P/A,a v Sofiq- samo 1-2(ne znam dali ima vtori). Zasramete se bre!!Vie ako samo gledate kak vi digat cenite,i vie shte ostanete samo s 2 BBS.A i BBS tuka shte si slozhat Balck Box-ove skoro,taka che vie,sofianci,nqma da imate problem da zvunite-samo che po-kusno,che liniite sa super shibani. Za vsichki,reshili da se zanimavat s H/P/A,e preporuchiteno da prochetat "The Hackers' Crackdown" ot Bruce Sterling-opisanie na vsichko, napraveno ot hakeri i phreakeri v USA ot okolo 81 godina.Mozhe da zabelezhite i na kolko godini mogat da vi osudqt(e,preporuchvam vi i nakazatelniq kodeks :-))) ). Kvo drugo- Veselo si tuk zhiveem, Kolim,besim i si peem. Kojto ne e dovolen, Nij shte go zakolim. E,za edni svatba,za drugi-bradva.Birichkata stana okolo 300 lv, vinoto se digna qko,a puk hubavo che ne ponqsqm po-koncentriranite- vse si mislq che sa sburkali broq na nulite v cenata......Kvo ni ostana- gaz da piem,ama nqma mnogo zhelaeshti... E,kato za posledno,nqkoj da znae kade BTK si izhvurlqt knizhniq bokluk?Tam mozhe da ima interesni raboti. Stiga tolkova. M a n i a X K i l l e r i a n 'It always can get badder' The n-th Murphy's Law _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 _____________________________ .oO Basic Telecomunications Oo. ----------------------------- Part II Eto ja i prosluvutata vtora chast na naruchnikat vi po phreaking - 'Basic Telecomunications' - part II. Probvahte li veche chernata si kutia opisana v PHM1_1 ? Nadiavam se da vi e haresala ideata, i predpolagam che ne ste imali niakakvi seriozni problemi pri konstruiraneto. Ta, znachi, da zaopchvame s vtorata chast... 3. Zvuneneto Za da informira abonata za napraveno povikvane, telefonnata kompania izprasta 90 volta promenlivo naprezenie po liniata (na priblizitelno 15 do 60 herca). V standartnite telefoni towa predizvikva metalno chukche da udria po dve zvuncheta, privlichano ot dwa elektromagnita. Razbira se, standartnia zvunec (patentovan prez 1878 ot Tom A. Watson) moze da bude zamenen ot po-moderen elektronen zvunec ili signalno ustrojstvo. Susto taka, mozete da slozite svetlini ili drugi podobni ustrojstva w zamiana na (ili zaedno s) zvuneca. Obiknovenna neonowa lampa (sus suotvet- nite rezistori) moze prosto da bude svurzana mezdu chervenata i zelenata zica, taka che da sveti kogato poluchavate obazdane. Werigata predizvikvasta zvuneneto, sudurza oste i edin kondenzator, kojto predpazva pravia tok ot interferencii sus zvuneca. Druga prichina poradi kojato telefonnata kompania mrazi chernite kutii, e che zvuneneto izpolzva mnogo kontrolirasta aparatura w postata, koeto puk izpolzva mnogo elektroenergia. Kogato chernata kutia e v dejstvie, niakolko generatora na zvunene v postata harchat elektroenergia, dokato vie si provezdate bezplatnia razgovor (heh). Obiknovenno, obazdania koito zvuniat prekaleno dulgo se obiaviavat za 'podozritelni'. W niakoj centrali, sled produlzitelno zvunene, se aktivira ustrojstvo za zasichane na 'NO-NO' kutii i liniata ostava pod 'osoben nadzor'. Terminat 'RING TRIP' se otnasia do proces, protichast v telefonnata centrala, prednaznachen za prekusvane na promenlivoto naprezenie predizvikvasto zvuneneto, vednaga stom bude vdignata telefonnata slushalka. Zabelezka: Preporuchitelno e dejstvitelno da napravite 'disekcia' na niakolko telefona ako naistina iskate da razberete kak dejstvat. Mnogo po- dobre ste razberete concepciite opisani tuk ako uspeete da gi dokazete na sebe si. Mozete da zapochnete, naprimer, kato izmerite sami naprezenieto po vashata telefonna linia (obiknozen multimer ste svurshi rabota). I ne zabraviajte - phreakinga e aktiven proces, a ne pasiven! 4. Nabiraneto Translated by Dr. Flip Flop _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 /------------------------\ / \ / Pregled na pechata \ / \ / \ / by ManiaX Killerian \ /------------------------------------\ E,s vtoriq broj reshihme da ima pregled na nqkoi interesni publi- kacii ot razlichnite vestnici.Pregleda shte se deli na dve chasti- purvata e ot vestnicite izdavani sega v BG,a vtorata-ot nqkoi elekt- ronni izdaniq kato LoL,DFP,NHA,Phrack i podobni. Taka......v 7 broj na ComputerWorld ot 97 ima edna interesna statiq za krazhbite na letishte Sofiq...abe,tam se krade po-qko otkolkoto sa krali vsichkite hakeri vuv Varna,obache nikoj ne vdigna takuv skandal.....da ne kazvam che polovinata hvanati sa mi priqteli,kakto i che kato na CI$ zashtitata im e slaba,da ne obvinqvat hakerite- az ako slozha kjulche zlato pred bloka,da ne bi shte ostane tam za poveche ot 30 minuti? V sushtiq broj opisvat xDSL sistemite-cifrovi telefonni i drugi vruzki.....abe momcheta,izchakajte cifrovite centrali da stanat malko poveche,che togava pishete za takiva raboti......a nqkoj zamislil li se e vurhu fakta,che taq tehnologiq shte dojde pri nas sled 2-3-4 godini? I kato dojde,shte struva majkasi,bashta si + apartamenta?A veche pishat za "Resheniq za dostup do cifrova magistrala".............. Pak tam pishe "Stemo otchete......".Abe hora,q si zadajte vuprosa ot kakvo sa gi napravili teq pechalbi pri toq pazar,deto e svit kato zashit zadnik.....sqkash sa distributori na nakkotici.....i pak da pitam,ot kakvo sa pechelili?Ot tehnika na HP(High Prices,ili,ako predpochitate,Hewelett Packard)... A,ako vidite mezhduvremenno nqkoj kompjutar na kojto pishe "Made in Bulgariq",ne se shashkajte-zavoda v Pravec poluchi sertificat ISO 9001,taka che i nij shte dadem neshto na sveta... Neka da vidim nqkoj po-nov broj.......naprimer 9/97...lele, toj stanal 60 lv....kakdo i da e,nabiva se v ochite statiqta za CeBIT'97-vuv fokus....pravi vpechatlenie,che osnovnata centralna chast e otdelena na telecomunicaciite....A puk na nqkoi raboti kato bankovo oburudvane,ofis oburudvane,avtomatizaciq na proizvodstvo- edva okolo 5-6 palati.....a puk vischki bulgarski firmi se zanimavat s podobni gluposti...ej che sme izostanalii...e,amam nqma kak-s teq ceni na telefonite..... :-((( A,eto edna glupost : "Kolputrite da se suobrazqt s horata...." Abe hora,kato nqkoj ne razbira neshto,da ne se zanimava s nego- v poslednite godini vidqhme mnogo opiti za podobrqvane na interface na komputrite,ama vsqko podobrenie v vunshniq vid beshe osirane vuv vutreshniq.....i kakuv genocid nalozhiha ot MicroSoft(vinagi sum si mislil,che B.Gates e izmislil imeto dokato si gledal onaq rabota... :-)) )....ako nqkoj e vizhdal kak rabotqt Linux,BSDI ili OS/2 shte razbere kakvo lajno e WIN(kojto i da e to tqh...samo NT e shto gode stabilno,ama bavno kato karuca),samo che nqma koj da pishte software za tqh....i nikoj ne pishe za teq sistemi,vupreko che Linux e zhivoto chudo na IT za tova desetiletie-edinstvenata bezplatna operacionna sistema koqto se razprostranqva s sources na qdroto,a i e burza-vsishtnost,nishto ne kopira i trie po-burzo ot Linux-proveril sam go..... Q,kakvo imame tuk......TEC Varna si izgradil mrezha....MTSG sushto (ministerstvoto na truda i soc.grizhi)....Abe osraha se ama ajde.... mrezha stana magicheskata duma na poslednata godina...kato nqkoj kazheshe "izgrazhdame mrezha",sqkash stroeshe Kitajskata stena...az sushto si napravih mrezha i otkrih che : 1)Priqtno zabavlenie i 2) Pochti vseki s IQ>10 mozhe da go napravi.....abe ne e elementarno,ama ne e i neshto trudno(vsushtnost,instaliraneto na WINNT e po-gadno) Ej,ama kak sa razvalili spisaniqta....poslednite PC Magazine i PC World maj samo go razlistih...lele,che prostotii pishe vutre... naprimer "IS za bolnichni zavedeniq","Izgrazhdane na mrezha s Win'95" hahhhahahhahahhahahhaahahhah,gospodi,teq imat akul v zadnicite si.... che az pod DR DOS v1.3 shte izgradq po-dobra mrezha.... Auuuu,ami vidqh te li zadachata po informatika v PC Magazine? Bikove i kravi...koq li krava go e izmislila...che tova sum go uchil v uchilishte po informatika-a poznajte kva informatika uchim..... che te ima da se chudqt pone 2 dena kak da nagradqt horata,shtoto maj vtoro mqsto nqma i da ima....ili puk ste iztupeqt do tam,che da ocenqvat interface......abe nikoj ne e stanal dobur,pravejki interface-i, ama koj da im go kazhe.... E,stiga sum gi pljul-v PC Magazine ima tolkova gotini raboti- abe to si e naj-dobroto spisanie,nego haresvam naravno s web.bg (abe koga shte izleze vtoriq broj??)......Naprimer v nagradite za tehnichesko suvurshenstvo sa poznali za browser-a-Netscape 2.0 e the best v tazi oblast....IE 3.0 e dosta daleche......q,a za mrezhov hadrware sa slozhili DirecPC-tova kakvo e -edin direk zabit v PC-to li? :-) A,napisali sa neshto interesnoi za muzika v web-s CD kachestvo, uboben interface....ama kazvat :"Po nashata T1 liniq ot vreme na vreme spirashe"...za spravka,T1 e 64 Kbps-maj nqma da mozhem da slushame muzika on-line....a puk kazvat che 28800 stigali.... Eheeee....lubimata mi rubrika "Abort,Retry,Fail" (ili vmesto "Fail" "Self-destruct") pishe "Tendencii v reklamata:bolka,uzhas i nasilie" (ej che gotino zvuchi na anglijski "Pain,Horror and Violence")....ami to i tendenciite v realniq zhivot v BG sa sushtite...kato dobavim i glad.....a,ami tova za diksetata,servirana na obqd v edin samolet.... abe vsqkakvi gi ima-na edin priqtel kucheto mu kato malko mu qdeshe disketite,a sega kato nishto mozhe da mu izqde taratajkata... A,za vas,neshtastnici,koito imate NT i iskate da opravite nqkoj bug..No WAY!! MS sa se pogrizhili-vseki,kojto vse oshte izturpqva NT-to,shte poluchi udar,kato vidi adresa na fajlovete- ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/nt40/ussp1/i386 leleeeeeeeeeee,celi 73 simvola....koj li shte e tolkova lud da gi pishe zara- di nqkakuv bug..po skoro choveka shte si iztegli Linux ot sunsite.unc.edu Ej,posledna novina: Presidenta Stoyanov ima www stranica- http://www.omega.bg/president/ ,kojto iska-da q vidi.... E,sega ide vtorata chast....taka............a,dojde..... :-) Ako nqkoj zhelae da pretakova nechij komputer,mozhe da hvurli edni pogled na Digital Free Press-ima vsichko na vsichko 5 broq (to e edno staro spisanijce),obache vutre ima 10(0)1 nachina da preebete BBS,server i vuobshte vsqkakvo PC.....Osobenno nqkoj Pravec-16 - mozhete da mu grumnete monitora,da mu stroshite harda, i maj oshte edno-dve neshta... Na tezi ot vas,koito ot rozhdenie obichat da ubivat razni zhivi susthestva ili prosto iskat da otmustqt na nqkoj,ili puk da se pobazikat v daskaloto,da prochetat purvite 7-8 broq na LoL- Legions Of Lucifer,edno ot naj-dobrite v taq oblast-hrumvalo li vi e da zabiete kotkata na suseda v stenata mu za lapite i da q ostavite da se muchi? I posledno,molq vi se na vsichki,ne dejte izprobva Bloto Box ili neshto preebavashto tel.centrala-pone ne bez da predupredite horata naokolo i go pravete sus seriozna prichina(ne,tova che gadzheto vi e napusnalo ne e seriozna prichina). A,i mezhdu drugoto,predlozheniq po taq chast priemam na adres Killerian@hotmail.com,proverqva se na 7 i 23 vseki mesec(po princip spisanieto se izdava na 1 i 15),kakvoto hitro namerite,pishete (sushtoto vazhi i za statiite za publikuvane-ako ne zhiveete v Dobrich ili nqmate drug nachin,e-maila mu e majkata). Uffffffff,zavursheno na majnata si sled 10 popravki pod zvucite na TBE2_MG.XM,INDTRANC.MOD i NDTIT.MOD (10x,EXo,ama poslednoto se nalozhi sam da si go rip-na) _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 ............................. .C u R r E n T S t A t U s. ............................. |ANTI BTK | |Sites List: | | |-----------------------------------|-------------------------| | 1) Hot Hell BBS - Dobrich | ++359-058-21491 | | | | | 2) Idleness - Sofia | ++359-********* | | | | | 3) Blown Away - Dobrich | ++359-058-38407 | | | | --------------------------------------------------------------- |ANTI BTK | |Members List: | |------------------------------------------------------------| | 1) Maniax Killerian | | | | 2) Dr. Flip Flop | | | | 3) EXo | | | | 4) FlyMan (DD) | | | | 5) Ho Jo | | | | 6) Chaos Maker | | | -------------------------------------------------------------- Last Updated on 15/03/97 _____________________ PHREEDOM Magazine 2/1 ******** R E A D E R ' S I N F O ******** Ok phriends, here are the answers of your questions. First off, we'll publish again the ways you can contact with us. 1. Logging to Hot Hell BBS - Dobrich ++359-38-21491 Working time : 23:00 - 6:00 Speed: up to 19200bps. Black Box installed. New users are given UNRESTRICTED access. The founder of 'ANTI BTK' organisation 2. E-mailing to Killerian@hotmail.com If you think I'Net is safer than BBSing... The mail is checked twice a mounth, just before the publication of the PHM. 3. By uploading a message to any 'ANTI BTK' distro site. They will upload it to Hot Hell bbs(i hope). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE:Toq broj beshe zavurshen ot ManiaX Killerian,zashtoto Dr.FlipFlop ima problemi s komputera(ot uchilishtno estestvo :-((( ).Sushto taka ne se znae dali HotHell shte bachka dobre v sledvashtite 2-3 sedmici. A telefona na Idleness BBS ne publikuvame po molba na SysOp-a mu. ManiaX